the city's at a standstill right now as police comb the streets for one of two men suspected of the marathon bombings they've been identified as nineteen year old junker of najaf who remains at large is brother twenty six year old timer learned some of my of who was killed after a police car chase the family originates from the north caucuses and settled in the united states more than a decade ago this is what's happening in the boston area right now and latest pictures as thousands of officers painstakingly search the city door by door let's go live to our correspondent danny to chicano washington i got it what more do we know this hour about the identities of the suspects and indeed where the second suspect is. we don't know where he is manhunt continues kevin but those were two brothers joe carter i have a nineteen year old and i met a long twenty six year old that answer i have the one who is being the one who is

being chased chased now apparently attended a prestigious school in boston the same score where ben affleck and matt damon study it they were on a wrestling team lived in a good neighborhood of course everybody's catching every detail on these men with one question why the men are chechen origin although they've lived in the u.s. for the last ten years we've heard their uncle speak who claims he hasn't seen he hasn't been in touch with the family for a long time here's what he says he's always say just heard if you would like to own you still of our city with his then i. will forgive no. room to intrude from those who left. as for giving islam these people. would not reclaim forgiveness indiscriminately. he put a shame to shame on people certainly not our family so no spam and people to shame

on to. this is to turn yourself and what ever it will going to mean to do yourself the discretion of those who you begin. with the families will meet those from the suffer. which shared with them their grief i'm just to meet with them i'm going to just bend in front of them to you in front of them seeking forgiveness again only tell me it is in your own of the family. so that's what i see. many people here have cautioned against focusing on these men's necessity they were obviously radicalized at some point in their lives but for many years they seem to have lived in the us led a lifestyle that did not immediately suggest they were on this evil pass the elder brother claims he wanted to join the us a limp a boxing team they were not us citizens they were citizens of kurdistan. as we

as we are getting reports that the younger brother briefly attended the school in russia's republic of dagestan eleven years ago where you wished out to that school and they told us that the car who is now at large who is now on the run spent there one year and that this family this family arrived there from care just on in two thousand and one hears more about their brief time in russia in the russian republic of dagestan take a listen. i don't. hold in the first grade and after just a year he left our school his family is from kurdistan there were four children in the family this is and two brothers in two thousand one hundred the school and in two thousand and two they left for the us. authorities have told the media here that the man arrived in the uighurs say in two thousand and three the

elder brother who was killed had a youtube page apparently it was very religious there are suggestions that the brothers were influenced by radical islam we don't know whether they received some kind of training abroad or those are home grown terrorists the bombs that they detonated are pressure cooker bombs experts on experts on terrorism are saying that these being used by extremists are worldwide but at the moment we don't know whether they have any ties with international terrorist networks or whether they were acting alone the reports that we hear in the media and the sources in the law enforcement that they talk to authorities seem to be more inclined to think that they are dealing with homegrown radicalism or are going to try to come from oh thank you very much for bringing this so what we know so far of. well of the identities of the suspects were revealed church leader rooms and responded to say by saying terrorism has no nationality said that the two brothers lost all connection to the church near long ago when they left for america. strongly condemn

the boston marathon bombing saying the church and people have been greatly saddened by those twin blasts which killed three and injured over one hundred seventy the other that no acts of terror can be justified. to be true burbage is a political analyst for the voice of russia radio station he says the u.s. and coalition of the suspects has been given too much attention. russian government has wanted a lot about the kind of refugees of all the kind of immigrants that the united states and west european countries are ready to accept and a lot of them did not change their condition their convictions a lot of them are still diehard decent mists and i can easily imagine that a lot of them conceived both russia and the united states part of the same decadent western civilization in this situation that they can the way to their jihad not necessarily in a place like syria or iraq but also in the united states happened to be in many

countries there are people who got our siloam in the west later turned against their hosts and against their benefactors you know if you expect any kinds of great acute any kind of thankful thinking from these people you are dead wrong. most of the jihadi egret it's in their convictions they think that they have the right to you know to a certain their convictions so they have the right to commit violent acts if only they feel their course and their cause is the creation of the system and state. well maybe it would be an excellent mixtape in north caucasus it could be a universal islamic caliphate but there's their thinking and i'm afraid in boston we were dealing with exactly that kind of thinking if you read their american press you can see a lot of simplistic thinking about the so-called church an uprising and the islamist groups are in the north caucasus and the american used to say that russia

was to blame for all of these terrorist activities but i don't agree with that i think that russia was actually fighting a real internationally slum is threat in north caucasus at least during the second world war during the second chechen war and olivia's li the system is to keep it in north caucasus it's not only a threat to russia it's also a threat to the united states is a threat to europe but somehow western countries just refused to recognize it. but who commentary to examine across offices america's security is not conducive to preventing domestic terror attacks. i think that the american intelligence community is always looking at ways of preventing terrorist acts on u.s. soil and i think basically that was successful if you look at what has been happening and that they were claiming that the did prevent serious terrorist attacks but i think the main problem here is that the. the war on terror across the

world in the middle east and elsewhere i think it's not actually conducted in the way that can prevent. more terrorist attacks in the west and the u.s. itself because let's face it some of these people might not be even linked we don't know about these schools but not might not be even linked to jihad are still good musicians or groups but they do see what's going on on television they do see what is happening in other parts of the world and don't forget some of these people are just saying well we have to help our brothers here and there in afghanistan on the rocks and they basically become so serious you know that is the most dangerous thing because you can't really catch them you country really point them out because they're not connected to any of the groups and that is the danger although i must say if these tools have been posting messages like that on you tube and nobody nobody paid any attention to that that's quite strange so let me bring it to speed

in a summary of what we know so far is happening with the boston manhunt. and the bombing suspects have been named as twenty six year term and so now have found his nineteen year old brother jock believed to be from russia's north caucuses region before the family moved to the united states back in two thousand and two their uncles denied links to church and terrorism earlier on the south and the elder of the two brothers was killed earlier today in a shootout with police right now an intense manhunt underway throughout the boston area for the surviving suspect police have found the car believed to be linked to the brothers f.b.i. agents and members of the national guard are involved in the large scale manhunt there these are live shots seen now along with hundreds of police conducting door to door searches it's reported that explosives were found at a location where the two men were initially traced to along with a pressure cooker similar to what they used in the marathon bombing. residents have been want to stay indoors not to let anyone near their homes.

boston and its suburbs than in lockdown with people told to stay indoors business is a closed flights are grounded classes are being canceled at universities in the area to contribute afshin rattansi in london says the u.s. homeland security department is in disarray and is incapable of stopping attacks like the marathon bombings. the whole idea of terrorism now in the world is asymmetric warfare and as your correspondents have talked about the whole of boston looking like gotham city waiting for batman one thing these terror acts will definitely do will help the security apparatus of central government was a complete and utter failure perhaps there will always be a necessary failure because as the security analysts are fond of saying it only takes them to be right once and the and the homeland security people they have to be right every single time this is not the way you combat terrorism or militancy

the way to combat it is through other measures and this idea of this ridiculous homeland security department coordinating homeland security this will never stop attacks like this the way to stop attacks like this is something entirely different if it is a political act this boston marathon bombing they're going to start looking at foreign policy and if indeed they were brought up or these their families were brought up in the cauldrons of political strife in the north caucasus during the late one nine hundred ninety s. . america better start talking to russia or about anti terror terror ideas you know i mean united states it's that entire media of islamophobia these things will catalyze it and no man security to go up and. much of a call is an expert on russia is joining us now from london martin good evening to you why is the u.s. so ready to give us a lot of people with criminal backgrounds so why is the

u.s. yet what i thought got to be got a bit of a problem but you can hear me martin and the question is why is the u.s. so ready to give asylum to people with criminal background. well the chens. very little known in the united states and the americans now are so conscious of crime you have attacks in schools and so on everywhere and you can homeland security and so on and everybody now is very very concerned about security so therefore if a suspect subtypes some type of malfeasance in the past that would be brought up that would be seen as by the americans is relevant. it's very it's very difficult to know but what do you think motivated these men won't they turn in a country that gave them asylum in the first place well there are two theories one would be that when the family moved to. america in two thousand and two they were in fact radical to start with that they had links to the what had be

a sect of islamic thinking and they moved to america and then gradually they comedy themselves to american life so the venture way they could in fact do something against america that would be one theory the other theory would be that these young men were radicalized in america because there's one report saying that the one who was being sought that a year ago he was a regular guy and did everything that it relisted then suddenly his his behavior changed and so on that might be an indication so that would be another theory that they've been radicalized in the united states and that is true that is deeply concerning for the american authorities much is being made of the suspects linked to russia's north caucasus region even their uncle said the family's going to do with chechen chechnya is there really anything to this alleged caucuses like that and that they are not what do you think. i think the north caucasus is

a problem not only for russia but for the rest of the world because the americans are aware that jihad have left the north caucasus to fight in syria against the bashar assad regime and so on and fighting there. and they're fighting on the islam and side and so on so therefore the american perception of the european perception of the caucasus is summer work which is basically radical islamist it may be in fact quite on true but this is the picture now and with this such a winter olympics coming up next year the russian authorities will be concerned and there's been this type of thing could happen in america it could actually happen in in or near sochi next year's world how do you assess the actual terrorist threat level in the u.s. right now. well the terrorist threat to the united states is not all that great because it's a massive country and you get the homeland security of the numbers number of

organizations which are concerned with security and identify and suspects and so on with computer networks and software which can identify links and so on and all this is done to next introduced and this bombing will in fact intensify the concern about security and the fact that everyone should be looking over their shoulder if they are linked in fact true islam islam is group then they are undermining american self-confidence that was the whole idea of bombing the the boston marathon and that from now on if you go to a bus or ball game or you go to. a baseball game or something like that you're looking over your shoulder to see is a maybe a bomb that if they are jihadists then they have in fact secured quite a victory mccauley expert on russia thanks for getting a line in as well now it's unconfirmed reports that must say new jersey police know questioning a woman who says she's

a sister of the suspected brothers we've still got to get that confirmed but that's the late slime we got in all right let's get some more thoughts on this now talk to roger griffin a professor of modern history docs for books university and author of terrorists creed fanatical violence and the human need for meaning thanks for being with us sir we appreciate your time what do you think is driven these guys to do what they've done well we need a lot more detail because i could be specific. studied for quite some time now the general possumus behavior and psychology that is involved in these issues and this case from what i've gathered today and of course this is all of a provisional reminds me a lot of the seven seven bombers in england in two thousand and five one of them mohammed come was a quiet well integrated apparently well integrated muslim who worked in the schools and works in an outreach center and on the surface was a well integrated second generation muslim but in his head he had done that on

a process which i have started which i call heroic doubling where he had us as it was a normal self a private self but another side of him which if you want to get a head around it people have seen the film avatar where the the man with who can't walk aquinas the avatar bolivian the in the tribe becomes a sort of superman what goes on is that somebody who's has obviously some deep this is this satisfaction with the society he's in come result of it by creating another verse not a heroic cells which relates to and i stress and fear or religion or cold and while they are living out their ordinary lives they become more more drawn into the idea that they have a sort of sacred mission to do something spectacular for that call what they would they be acting alone what these two brothers been acting alone it would bring

another cycle to help. for shortage and that kind of thing that you talk about that feeling yeah well this is my point really this is why i think the parallels to seven some very interesting at the time the british police could not and couldn't really conceive that a major attack could be carried out without training in pakistan or some just foreign planning but. i think what have. seven seven the group was that they had they obviously they'd become radicalized by by websites and listening to preaches that such a book basically that they had radicalized themselves i actually believe from what i've learned these brothers had created a sort of secret existence for themselves where they related to their homeland and to the islamist view of the world those having a sort of war against the west and they did internalize this cause and probably had no need to tools for external order and i think the actual bomb say you show every

sign of using websites and using information on the web in the websites to carry out this attack which in many i mean i know it was horrific but it's also quite amateur what i would do with a with a religion living such. a life between the two of them in their fantasy world as you put it that nobody no family no friends no colleagues i picked up almost well it's very common i was a wonderful series on british t.v. called turn out a generation jihad where parents and relatives of people who carried out attacks were interviewed and systematically they had no idea you see i think the image of the terrorists is a sort of fanatical psycho who wanders around with a chip on his shoulder all that is a lot i mean people who sort of misleading i mean these are probably quite bright people we've heard one of them really had some say whether school etc this is the disturbing feature of certain types of terrorist radicalization that actually uses

the intelligence of the people even as the nine eleven bomb so highly educated postgraduate some of them and so i think it's perfectly possible for them to conceive this plot a bit like sleepers in a spiral when i was a citizen actually planned it together and keep it to themselves and i i have believed rather tapes who would say i have absolutely no idea what was. and again my next question is going to be you know how come people with this predilection whatever could be given asylum into the united states but i guess the people that gave them a side it didn't say this side of these guys well you see this i think you put your finger on the problem you see that you talk about this side i think we've got to be very subtle in the way we understand from our sources and. take tamil tigers that they you have a. cause because you know people is being persecuted by state government but when

you have homegrown terrorists like these seem to be and i keep saying we really don't know yet then that. this isn't a particular person not of the time this isn't a particular psychological problem necessarily i think if you profiled all the various people who've been plotting it's that they don't they wouldn't share a common psychological person but it does certain point they result if you like personally substantial problems probably a sense of impotence a sense of not having any real purpose in this society by radicalizing themselves and of course they are massively encouraged to do this by linking in with a very active web virtual community where they feel that they're part of something much bigger and so this side can easily co-exist with a very normal routine existence of these people to be perfectly good friends and function perfectly well in job and write good essays and yet have inside them this is the science side of the person they've developed and this could never be picked

up with immigration interviews or civil responsibility courses of what citizenship courses rogering what it could have been a program thanks for that bit of insight there was a christian professor of modern history into. some of what we know than in the boston manhunt so far the sas in the bombing suspects have been named as twenty six year old timer lance and i have his nineteen year old brother yorka believed to be from russia's north caucasus region before the from the move to the united states back in two thousand and two rumple has denied the links to chechen terrorism well local reports say the f.b.i. is questioning a woman who says she's the suspect the information but with information still be verified the elder of the two brothers was killed earlier today in a shootout with police right now an intense manhunt is underway throughout the boston area for the surviving suspect police have found a car believed to be linked to this and i have brothers f.b.i. agents and members of the national guard are involved in

a large scale manhunt along with hundreds of police conducting door to door searches it's reported that explosives were found at the location where the two men were initially traced to a lower the pressure cooker similar to the one used in the marathon bombing residents have been warned to stay indoors and not to let anyone into their homes unless they've got a verified police the. politicians of the u.s. congress have seen this week's tragic events as an opportunity to step up their drive to control the internet the cispa bill would allow user data to be shared with government agencies getting around privacy laws it's made it through to the senate but president obama still thought to be wary of signing it off the american producer on the under blake has got more. aides for the white house actually said that we will recommend the president veto this legislation seven dollars a share and some sharing of protection act it's come under a lot of criticism by its opponents because they say that it does more than what the authors say it does now the authors of cispa they say that this bill will lead

to businesses private companies google facebook and many internet provider these companies will be encouraged to share information with the federal government that will be used to track down and monitor and curb cyber attacks aimed at the united states computer critics say that it puts too much of americans privacy at risk and that the right safeguards are there people would be sacrificing their privacy for a little bit of security when the bill was introduced back in february i believe one of the areas for the second time representative or one of the authors of the bill he said you know we can't have another nine eleven we can't have another terrorist attack it but if we do we will pass any law that needs to happen sure enough just another congressman who actually got up and said well look what happened in boston these were bombs sure they weren't digital bombs but the next ones will be digital bombs so we need to come together for the sake of national security and do something and that's exactly why a lot of people have problems with this bill because the people who are touting it the people who are writing it are people that don't really understand these cyber

security concerns and there's a lot of concern over who is coming up with this bill who is supporting it and what they actually know about cyber security. incident that this morning saying that you know boston would be reason enough to pass a cyber security bill is laughable to many people. without even all of the wills latest breaking news which continues in a couple of minutes. the

international court in the very heart of moscow. this is r.t. rest is brewing in bahrain ahead of the weekend's formula one grand prix with protesters furious at the government plans to host elite sports event despite the country's poor human rights record as

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human rights campaigner was in london talking to another prominent activist and whistleblower julian assange on which so we came here to london's ecuadorian embassy which the wiki leaks founder has been calling home for some ten months now in order to have a chat about the man at the forefront of bahrain's pro-democracy struggle i began by asking him why he was so keen to invite me over job for an interview on his exclusive r.t. show brain has nine hundred thousand people it has one hundred fifty thousand twitter followers prize predominantly all the population of. the rest of a number of other activists in the green screen. presence brings in right what's the most prominent voice for the brain it's pretty speaking to julian assange.